What's up everybody? Welcome to another
have a lot to get to. Only 10 minutes to
do it, so let's get to it. Hackers are
targeting businesses with video deep
fakes that can trick people into sending
money, sharing passwords, or revealing
sensitive information, all in a matter
of seconds. Our Claire Duffy gets advice
from an expert on how to avoid getting
scammed.
>> Wow, that looks a lot like Claire. I
can't. It's a little bit creepy.
There's a new type of AI scam that's
increasingly targeting businesses and
eventually maybe anybody. Last year, an
exec at Ferrari was targeted by someone
posing as the company's CEO. And a
finance worker at a multinational
company paid out $25 million to scammers
that use deep fake recreations of the
company's CFO. So, I'm here in Silicon
Valley to meet up with ethical hacker
and social proof security CEO Rachel
Tobac. She's going to walk me through
how these scams work and how people can
protect themselves. Explain to us what
we're going to see today. So, you're
going to see a demo of what it looks
like when somebody uses a deep fake to
try to trick somebody with your
likeness. And it's not too hard to make.
>> Ahead of our meeting, Rachel created a
deep fake version of me using software
commonly used by hackers, pulling video
and audio of me posted on YouTube. It
can be played back on something like a
Zoom call without the person on the
other end realizing that it's a
recording. We have a colleague of mine
in New York who is ready and waiting.
She knows this is coming because you are
an ethical hacker. We didn't want to
trick anybody here. But talk about how
this would actually happen in the wild.
If she were there unsuspecting, what
would happen?
>> She would probably get a text message or
an email. Hey, I'm on the road. Can you
jump on a call real quick? I need
something. So, it'll look like it's
coming from you. And when she gets on
there, she sees you quickly ask for
something like a wire transfer or a
password or a code. And usually these
types of conversations aren't lasting.
They're short and they're sweet.
>> Okay. All right. We've sent that email.
Let me get it queued up and we'll see
when she answers.
>> Hey, thanks for jumping on so fast. Can
you remind me of our password for our
shared drive? I need it for an interview
starting in 30 seconds.
>> Wow, that looks a lot like Claire. The
movements though are a little bit off.
Like it definitely doesn't seem human.
I've never seen Cla look this surprised.
Also, she's usually very chill.
>> Um, sorry, my connection is bad.
>> Okay, Claire.
>> Oh, this is a little bit creepy.
>> All right. Can Miesa, can you hear us on
on your end?
>> Yeah, I Yeah, I heard you guys laughing
a little.
>> This is real. This is real Claire, not
DK Clair, right?
>> What are your thoughts? Like if this had
been our boss Dave calling you really
quickly to ask you for something, do you
feel like there would have been red
flags going off or or do you think that
you might have been fooled?
>> There definitely were red flags going
off. I feel like your movements were
very jerky. Um but yeah, this is so
realistic. It sounded exactly like you.
>> Well, and I can imagine that this is
only going to get better, right?
>> Yeah. I mean, this is where we're at
right now in 2025. Give it a year. So
this is mainly happening in a work
setting, right? It's not necessarily
like my husband is going to get a Zoom
call request from deep fake me.
>> I mean, it could, right? If you are
wellknown enough and your threat model
is high enough, then I'm pretty sure
that an attacker would pretend to be you
to anybody that trusts you. This is the
type of thing that we see it right now
in a business context in a limited way,
but it is pretty much hitting people who
have a lot of authority at the company
asking somebody who really is supposed
to do that task for that person of
authority.
>> What can people do to make sure that
they don't fall victim to something like
this?
>> You and the people around you have to be
politely paranoid. So essentially verify
that people are who they say they are
before taking action on their sensitive
request. So before sending the wire
transfer, giving a code, uh giving
access to a password or a document. If
you do that after the fact because it
felt weird, it's already too late.
>> 10sec trivia. How many United States
pennies are currently in circulation?
220 million, 770 million, 1.5 billion,
or 114 billion?
Answer is 114 billion. That makes sense.
The penny was one of the first coins
ever produced by the US Mint. The
originals were pure copper. Today,
they're made almost entirely of zinc,
then plated with copper. It is almost
time to say goodbye to pennies. The US
Mint is preparing to phase them out next
year, and there is already at least one
store getting ready for it. The Star
Store in Langley, Washington, has been
operated by Gan and Tamar Felton for 41
years. and they're rounding down every
purchase to the nearest nickel so that
no pennies will circulate through their
business. The owners say it's just
logical with about 80% of their sales
that are being paid by credit card. The
owners also say that eliminating pennies
streamlines transactions between clerks
and customers and it's been a long time
coming.
>> It was cash or checks checks or layaway
or just put it on the account that
didn't work out so well. So,
>> it just seems like they're not worth
their while anymore.
>> The main reason the US Mint is pushing
pennies to go the way of the dinosaurs
is cost. Did you know each penny cost
nearly 4 cents to produce? So, the move
is expected to result in an immediate
savings of about $56 million each year,
according to the US Department of the
Treasury. The US began minting the
1-cent piece in 1793.
First responders are known for saving
lives, but now some four-legged heroes
are saving the day in a different way.
It's all thanks to Heidi Carman and her
nonprofit, First Responder Therapy Dogs,
which helps reduce stress for police
officers, firefighters, and paramedics
by bringing them dogs after they make
tough calls. These pups don't chase
suspects, they chase smiles, and maybe
their tails. Of course, the furry
teammates aren't just cute, but making a
positive difference for mental health by
bringing comfort, cuddles, and a few
slobbery kisses to those who keep us
safe.
>> To fight the fires in California is like
a war zone. It's grueling work. It's
smoky. It's hot.
>> It's dangerous. They go for a minimum of
2 weeks. 24 hours on, 24 hours off.
That stress to have it lightened with a
therapy dog visit is priceless.
>> Puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy.
>> We got Carth in 2018 and we were
training her to become a working guide
dog. Touch.
She was just too friendly to every
single person. So, I started doing
therapy dog work with her during the
2020 fire season, going around to
firebase camps. She was so good at just
making the firefighters feel better. I
started posting pictures on her
Instagram. Then I was getting messages,
can you come to my husband's police
department? I'm like, yeah, sure. Now we
have hundreds of therapy dog teams
across the entire country. We go to
firebased camps, fire stations, police
departments, 911 dispatch centers.
All first responders would benefit.
>> When we are around emotional support
animals, you just see that all sort of
melt away.
>> Cortisol levels go down, the endorphine
levels go up. I can feel that goodness
just coming up the leash.
>> Just to have a dog come by, she can't
talk, can't ask questions, it can kind
of break the ice.
>> Oh, I missed you, too. The first time I
met Kareth, I had undiagnosed PTSD. She
just picked up on it right away. She
just went nose to nose with me and we
just had a moment and it broke me down.
This was my wakeup call that I needed to
go to therapy. The man's best friend for
a reason. We have helped so many people.
I'm grateful to Kareth for showing me
the way.
Today's story getting a 10 out of 10. An
enormous gift for an enormous sacrifice
after serving in the army for nearly a
decade. Rebecca Man of Matapoise,
Massachusetts, was medically retired due
to an injury. During her second
deployment to Afghanistan, she lost her
right foot and limb and then developed a
rare vascular condition which needed a
second amputation.
>> Establishing what your new normal is and
a new life in a new community is is
really hard. When the nonprofit Homes
for Our Troops heard Rebecca's story,
they offered to build a custom adaptive
home mortgage free.
>> My home has over 40 adaptations for um
ADA to help me navigate every day. I
don't know how you repay anybody for a
gift this huge.
>> It's very gratifying
um to be able to continue, as we say, to
serve the folks that have served us.
>> Now, Rebecca is not just loving her new
home, she is thriving. She recently
joined the US women's parah hockey team
and just won gold in the world
championships. Awesome stuff. All right,
superstars. Time for some shoutouts now.
This first one's going to Mr. Netherman
at Ridge View Junior High School from
Pickerton, Ohio. Thank you for being
part of our community, part of our fam.
We see you. And Miss Maguire at Hawkins
Middle School in Hawkins, Texas. And
they sent me this contraption dating
back to the 1930s. They have a tradition
there where they exchange mums and
garters for homecoming and they made a
custom one. Um, I wish it was big enough
for my head. I think this would be a
great piece for me. Thank you so much.
Happy homecoming to you and thank you
all for tuning in. Let's do it again,
shall we? I'm Koi Wire and we are CNN
10.
have a lot to get to. Only 10 minutes to
do it, so let's get to it. Hackers are
targeting businesses with video deep
fakes that can trick people into sending
money, sharing passwords, or revealing
sensitive information, all in a matter
of seconds. Our Claire Duffy gets advice
from an expert on how to avoid getting
scammed.
>> Wow, that looks a lot like Claire. I
can't. It's a little bit creepy.
There's a new type of AI scam that's
increasingly targeting businesses and
eventually maybe anybody. Last year, an
exec at Ferrari was targeted by someone
posing as the company's CEO. And a
finance worker at a multinational
company paid out $25 million to scammers
that use deep fake recreations of the
company's CFO. So, I'm here in Silicon
Valley to meet up with ethical hacker
and social proof security CEO Rachel
Tobac. She's going to walk me through
how these scams work and how people can
protect themselves. Explain to us what
we're going to see today. So, you're
going to see a demo of what it looks
like when somebody uses a deep fake to
try to trick somebody with your
likeness. And it's not too hard to make.
>> Ahead of our meeting, Rachel created a
deep fake version of me using software
commonly used by hackers, pulling video
and audio of me posted on YouTube. It
can be played back on something like a
Zoom call without the person on the
other end realizing that it's a
recording. We have a colleague of mine
in New York who is ready and waiting.
She knows this is coming because you are
an ethical hacker. We didn't want to
trick anybody here. But talk about how
this would actually happen in the wild.
If she were there unsuspecting, what
would happen?
>> She would probably get a text message or
an email. Hey, I'm on the road. Can you
jump on a call real quick? I need
something. So, it'll look like it's
coming from you. And when she gets on
there, she sees you quickly ask for
something like a wire transfer or a
password or a code. And usually these
types of conversations aren't lasting.
They're short and they're sweet.
>> Okay. All right. We've sent that email.
Let me get it queued up and we'll see
when she answers.
>> Hey, thanks for jumping on so fast. Can
you remind me of our password for our
shared drive? I need it for an interview
starting in 30 seconds.
>> Wow, that looks a lot like Claire. The
movements though are a little bit off.
Like it definitely doesn't seem human.
I've never seen Cla look this surprised.
Also, she's usually very chill.
>> Um, sorry, my connection is bad.
>> Okay, Claire.
>> Oh, this is a little bit creepy.
>> All right. Can Miesa, can you hear us on
on your end?
>> Yeah, I Yeah, I heard you guys laughing
a little.
>> This is real. This is real Claire, not
DK Clair, right?
>> What are your thoughts? Like if this had
been our boss Dave calling you really
quickly to ask you for something, do you
feel like there would have been red
flags going off or or do you think that
you might have been fooled?
>> There definitely were red flags going
off. I feel like your movements were
very jerky. Um but yeah, this is so
realistic. It sounded exactly like you.
>> Well, and I can imagine that this is
only going to get better, right?
>> Yeah. I mean, this is where we're at
right now in 2025. Give it a year. So
this is mainly happening in a work
setting, right? It's not necessarily
like my husband is going to get a Zoom
call request from deep fake me.
>> I mean, it could, right? If you are
wellknown enough and your threat model
is high enough, then I'm pretty sure
that an attacker would pretend to be you
to anybody that trusts you. This is the
type of thing that we see it right now
in a business context in a limited way,
but it is pretty much hitting people who
have a lot of authority at the company
asking somebody who really is supposed
to do that task for that person of
authority.
>> What can people do to make sure that
they don't fall victim to something like
this?
>> You and the people around you have to be
politely paranoid. So essentially verify
that people are who they say they are
before taking action on their sensitive
request. So before sending the wire
transfer, giving a code, uh giving
access to a password or a document. If
you do that after the fact because it
felt weird, it's already too late.
>> 10sec trivia. How many United States
pennies are currently in circulation?
220 million, 770 million, 1.5 billion,
or 114 billion?
Answer is 114 billion. That makes sense.
The penny was one of the first coins
ever produced by the US Mint. The
originals were pure copper. Today,
they're made almost entirely of zinc,
then plated with copper. It is almost
time to say goodbye to pennies. The US
Mint is preparing to phase them out next
year, and there is already at least one
store getting ready for it. The Star
Store in Langley, Washington, has been
operated by Gan and Tamar Felton for 41
years. and they're rounding down every
purchase to the nearest nickel so that
no pennies will circulate through their
business. The owners say it's just
logical with about 80% of their sales
that are being paid by credit card. The
owners also say that eliminating pennies
streamlines transactions between clerks
and customers and it's been a long time
coming.
>> It was cash or checks checks or layaway
or just put it on the account that
didn't work out so well. So,
>> it just seems like they're not worth
their while anymore.
>> The main reason the US Mint is pushing
pennies to go the way of the dinosaurs
is cost. Did you know each penny cost
nearly 4 cents to produce? So, the move
is expected to result in an immediate
savings of about $56 million each year,
according to the US Department of the
Treasury. The US began minting the
1-cent piece in 1793.
First responders are known for saving
lives, but now some four-legged heroes
are saving the day in a different way.
It's all thanks to Heidi Carman and her
nonprofit, First Responder Therapy Dogs,
which helps reduce stress for police
officers, firefighters, and paramedics
by bringing them dogs after they make
tough calls. These pups don't chase
suspects, they chase smiles, and maybe
their tails. Of course, the furry
teammates aren't just cute, but making a
positive difference for mental health by
bringing comfort, cuddles, and a few
slobbery kisses to those who keep us
safe.
>> To fight the fires in California is like
a war zone. It's grueling work. It's
smoky. It's hot.
>> It's dangerous. They go for a minimum of
2 weeks. 24 hours on, 24 hours off.
That stress to have it lightened with a
therapy dog visit is priceless.
>> Puppy, puppy, puppy, puppy.
>> We got Carth in 2018 and we were
training her to become a working guide
dog. Touch.
She was just too friendly to every
single person. So, I started doing
therapy dog work with her during the
2020 fire season, going around to
firebase camps. She was so good at just
making the firefighters feel better. I
started posting pictures on her
Instagram. Then I was getting messages,
can you come to my husband's police
department? I'm like, yeah, sure. Now we
have hundreds of therapy dog teams
across the entire country. We go to
firebased camps, fire stations, police
departments, 911 dispatch centers.
All first responders would benefit.
>> When we are around emotional support
animals, you just see that all sort of
melt away.
>> Cortisol levels go down, the endorphine
levels go up. I can feel that goodness
just coming up the leash.
>> Just to have a dog come by, she can't
talk, can't ask questions, it can kind
of break the ice.
>> Oh, I missed you, too. The first time I
met Kareth, I had undiagnosed PTSD. She
just picked up on it right away. She
just went nose to nose with me and we
just had a moment and it broke me down.
This was my wakeup call that I needed to
go to therapy. The man's best friend for
a reason. We have helped so many people.
I'm grateful to Kareth for showing me
the way.
Today's story getting a 10 out of 10. An
enormous gift for an enormous sacrifice
after serving in the army for nearly a
decade. Rebecca Man of Matapoise,
Massachusetts, was medically retired due
to an injury. During her second
deployment to Afghanistan, she lost her
right foot and limb and then developed a
rare vascular condition which needed a
second amputation.
>> Establishing what your new normal is and
a new life in a new community is is
really hard. When the nonprofit Homes
for Our Troops heard Rebecca's story,
they offered to build a custom adaptive
home mortgage free.
>> My home has over 40 adaptations for um
ADA to help me navigate every day. I
don't know how you repay anybody for a
gift this huge.
>> It's very gratifying
um to be able to continue, as we say, to
serve the folks that have served us.
>> Now, Rebecca is not just loving her new
home, she is thriving. She recently
joined the US women's parah hockey team
and just won gold in the world
championships. Awesome stuff. All right,
superstars. Time for some shoutouts now.
This first one's going to Mr. Netherman
at Ridge View Junior High School from
Pickerton, Ohio. Thank you for being
part of our community, part of our fam.
We see you. And Miss Maguire at Hawkins
Middle School in Hawkins, Texas. And
they sent me this contraption dating
back to the 1930s. They have a tradition
there where they exchange mums and
garters for homecoming and they made a
custom one. Um, I wish it was big enough
for my head. I think this would be a
great piece for me. Thank you so much.
Happy homecoming to you and thank you
all for tuning in. Let's do it again,
shall we? I'm Koi Wire and we are CNN
10.